Indian Nations Youth Sports

Football => "Ask the Ref" => Topic started by: CoachB#40 on October 24, 2020, 05:19:32 pm

Title: Illegal Shift
Post by: CoachB#40 on October 24, 2020, 05:19:32 pm
It was 4 & 8 and there was an illegal shift on our Offense. What should happen in this situation?
Title: Re: Illegal Shift
Post by: CoachEmUp" on October 24, 2020, 07:05:23 pm
Depends live ball play so if your short they decline it and get the ball. If you get first down the accept 4th -13
Title: Re: Illegal Shift
Post by: CoachB#40 on October 24, 2020, 07:55:50 pm
The ball was never snapped.
Title: Re: Illegal Shift
Post by: CoachEmUp" on October 24, 2020, 08:07:04 pm
Well illegal shift is live ball so if never snapped you have a dead ball foul. Dead ball false start. Which would be 4th and 13. You canít have a live ball foul if the ball is never snapped.
Title: Re: Illegal Shift
Post by: CoachB#40 on October 24, 2020, 10:55:17 pm
Yeah, as soon as the running back and slot guy moved the they blew the whistle.  Then let Bixby decline it and said it was turnover on downs. 
Title: Re: Illegal Shift
Post by: CoachEmUp" on October 24, 2020, 11:02:59 pm
Yea thatís not correct. Send us time and field and I know bobby will reach out and make sure we clear it up in the future.
Title: Re: Illegal Shift
Post by: Director of Officials on October 24, 2020, 11:34:08 pm
Please send location/time and I will check with the officials.  bkelleyok@gmail.com
Title: Re: Illegal Shift
Post by: CoachEmUp" on October 25, 2020, 12:20:12 am
Looks to be bixby Hs 2pm bixby red vs ba white 6th grade
Title: Re: Illegal Shift
Post by: Director of Officials on October 25, 2020, 12:22:29 pm
Speaking to the officials that were on this game about this play - they said they let the play go and you lost 3 yards because it is a live ball penalty.  Then since you didn't get the first down on the play, the penalty was automatically declined and it would then be a turnover on downs. 
If you have film that shows different please sent to bkelleyok@gmail but I am just saying it was a pretty veteran crew that knows what to do on a illegal motion penalty.  Not that we can't all make a mistake from time to time, this would just be an odd one :)
Title: Re: Illegal Shift
Post by: CoachB#40 on October 25, 2020, 12:34:15 pm
I get the video. Ball was never snapped,
Title: Re: Illegal Shift
Post by: Director of Officials on October 26, 2020, 10:49:12 pm
bkelleyok@gmail.com