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Re: Jenks/TYAA Issue?
« Reply #30 on: October 19, 2018, 09:33:43 am »
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Re: Jenks/TYAA Issue?
« Reply #31 on: October 19, 2018, 09:34:27 am »


That’s one way to look at it but with the way our kids are being raised today that’s not what his story is going to be… Mostly same scenario as you posted other than TYAA gets off the hook. “Where did it all go wrong?” He reflects a moment and says, “10 years ago a coach told me that I didn’t have to play by the rules as they were for those who didn’t know how to beat the system; from that moment I never felt as if the rules applied to me.”
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Unless he’s a D1 talent, ends up going to Alabama, and makes millions in NFL flag football (which is what the game will be by then), all because he was, indeed, allowed to catch a break instead of catching a case.

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« Reply #32 on: October 19, 2018, 11:13:16 am »


That’s one way to look at it but with the way our kids are being raised today that’s not what his story is going to be… Mostly same scenario as you posted other than TYAA gets off the hook. “Where did it all go wrong?” He reflects a moment and says, “10 years ago a coach told me that I didn’t have to play by the rules as they were for those who didn’t know how to beat the system; from that moment I never felt as if the rules applied to me.”

Unless he’s a D1 talent, ends up going to Alabama, and makes millions in NFL flag football (which is what the game will be by then), all because he was, indeed, allowed to catch a break instead of catching a case.
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I would like to state that according to HB the kid was completely legal, so this is no longer a conversation about that player or coaching staff. I am curious as to why in the world Jenks would protest it if it’s completely legit, but I guess we will never know. I’m sure back dated documents have been filed by now. 😊

For clarification, I’m all for letting the kid play football; the coaches should be punished not the player. That said, your statement of “Unless he’s a D1 talent” is irrelevant… That is exactly the issue at hand in my completely made up scenario that will never happen lol. I also agree the NFL is becoming a flag football league and the only people getting hit these days are wives and kids (Mostly because the players believe the rules don’t apply to them).

We are setting these kids up for failure if we let them believe the rules do not apply to them. We are continuing to allow the coaches that are trying to beat the system believe that the rules do not apply to them also. Where do we draw the line?

I have been around INFC for some time now and its crazy what the adults do for a competitive edge… I have been handed rosters with 5 or 6 players that are all a year+ older than my boys because they have been held back for football and that is insane although it’s completely legal its defiantly for a competitive edge and should not be allowed, that rule is so that if a kid does get held back he can still play football and that is not how it is used today.

The rules are not there as just general guidelines they are in place to keep the league competitive and supposedly safe.  Yes, I know that small schools can suffer but that is why there is paperwork to assist in those situations as it seems to have been done here.

When does the INFC decide that they are going to be about the players rather the coach’s ego’s.

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Re: Jenks/TYAA Issue?
« Reply #33 on: October 19, 2018, 11:22:40 am »
I’m here now to know if Jenks Silver played apart in Muskogee protest? Was it C. Cox who had a hand in the Muskogee protest? Was it the guy who was kicked out the game when Muskogee played Jenks Silver? Because I do remember when Muskogee representivies went to the board meeting a Jenks person was having a coke and nice chat with Chad Lott before I decision was made.

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« Reply #34 on: October 19, 2018, 12:53:49 pm »
I’m here now to know if Jenks Silver played apart in Muskogee protest? Was it C. Cox who had a hand in the Muskogee protest? Was it the guy who was kicked out the game when Muskogee played Jenks Silver? Because I do remember when Muskogee representivies went to the board meeting a Jenks person was having a coke and nice chat with Chad Lott before I decision was made.


I can't wait to hear the answer for this one....


HB, do you know if anyone who has posted is with TYAA? I would think they would have said something if the player is legally playing for their team especially now that I know you have proof that he is legal...

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Re: Jenks/TYAA Issue?
« Reply #35 on: October 19, 2018, 12:58:26 pm »
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Re: Jenks/TYAA Issue?
« Reply #36 on: October 19, 2018, 07:02:38 pm »
I use to be a fan of Jenks Silver but I lost my respect for that squad. After Draven Nicole whose apart of the Jenks squad tried to get on a Muskogee page and say our team has to cheat to win and we play dirty. So I know behind close doors how they really feel. My honest opinion of the Jenks team they was not a playoff team, I think the best route is to go repeat for the PST no disrespect intended. But everyone in this division know #3 is running the ball 89% of the time, and the only pass play is a halfback pass. In the playoffs this is a one and done team, Union is in the same boat as you guys. Union has no offense #8 is everything for them if you put them in 3rd and 4th long force them to either throw deep to #6 or force them to put #8 at QB and allow him to either try and throw deep to #6 or just scramble for a first down. But that will not win in the playoffs luckily for Union the 3 seed in D1 is the best spot to be in for the playoffs. They will face a west team first round and maybe Jenks White/Owasso red second round. #8 can beat those teams, I’m pulling for Tyaa organization to repeat to the championship game because I feel like Muskogee was the team to change that championship game for this grade.

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Re: Jenks/TYAA Issue?
« Reply #37 on: October 19, 2018, 08:15:21 pm »
This is just my opinion....
I am a Jenks Silver mom. I’ll spare you the time of trying to figure out who I am...#4 is my kid. I think the bashing of any team, coach and or player(s) is ridiculous! I won’t speak on behalf of my team or coaches but I will speak on behalf of my son. I don’t want his team to have a forfeit “win”. If they don’t earn the win, I’m not interested in it. I don’t know what teams are honest and what teams are not. What I do know is, we are supposed to be teaching these precious boys on ALL teams to be men with great character...honest, dependable, hard working, loyal. I want my son to play football because it is his passion! I don’t understand why this is getting so out of hand. And I’m not asking anyone’s opinion but obviously you are free to give one. Our boys (yours and mine) should be our focus. As far as turning a team in....I don’t know who is apart of it and who isn’t and I don’t really care. I don’t know what went on with Muskogee. I only know a little bit about the possibility of a Jenks student playing for another team. Again, I don’t want a forfeit “win” for my son or his team. In my opinion if a team has to forfeit, INFC should wipe that game out as not even played and make the teams that were involved in the forfeited games play each other to make up for the game that way they get the win if they earn it or they get the learning experience from losing the game. I’m so sad for the boys on the team that had to forfeit what they worked hard for because adults didn’t follow procedures set my the INFC. As for the Muskogee and TYAA games...our boys played their best and so did yours. We lost! Yes, losing is hard but it will make them strong and work harder...and someone always has to lose! In my opinion both games were played fair by the boys on the field! I don’t have hard feelings for any team but I don’t understand all the nasty comments about teams/coaches/parents/players. I use to enjoy this forum before all the bashing started with Muskogee and now our team. Jenks Silver doesn’t pretend to be best in the INFC. But our boys love football, love each other and work hard all week long to play football on Saturdays. I’m so glad my son doesn’t have access to read all the nasty comments made by the parents/coaches on here. My wish for the remainder of the football season is that the bashing of everyone would just stop and we would all enjoy our boys being little because they won’t be little much longer.

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Re: Jenks/TYAA Issue?
« Reply #38 on: October 19, 2018, 09:11:24 pm »
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Re: Jenks/TYAA Issue?
« Reply #39 on: October 19, 2018, 09:38:23 pm »
This is just my opinion....
I am a Jenks Silver mom. I’ll spare you the time of trying to figure out who I am...#4 is my kid. I think the bashing of any team, coach and or player(s) is ridiculous! I won’t speak on behalf of my team or coaches but I will speak on behalf of my son. I don’t want his team to have a forfeit “win”. If they don’t earn the win, I’m not interested in it. I don’t know what teams are honest and what teams are not. What I do know is, we are supposed to be teaching these precious boys on ALL teams to be men with great character...honest, dependable, hard working, loyal. I want my son to play football because it is his passion! I don’t understand why this is getting so out of hand. And I’m not asking anyone’s opinion but obviously you are free to give one. Our boys (yours and mine) should be our focus. As far as turning a team in....I don’t know who is apart of it and who isn’t and I don’t really care. I don’t know what went on with Muskogee. I only know a little bit about the possibility of a Jenks student playing for another team. Again, I don’t want a forfeit “win” for my son or his team. In my opinion if a team has to forfeit, INFC should wipe that game out as not even played and make the teams that were involved in the forfeited games play each other to make up for the game that way they get the win if they earn it or they get the learning experience from losing the game. I’m so sad for the boys on the team that had to forfeit what they worked hard for because adults didn’t follow procedures set my the INFC. As for the Muskogee and TYAA games...our boys played their best and so did yours. We lost! Yes, losing is hard but it will make them strong and work harder...and someone always has to lose! In my opinion both games were played fair by the boys on the field! I don’t have hard feelings for any team but I don’t understand all the nasty comments about teams/coaches/parents/players. I use to enjoy this forum before all the bashing started with Muskogee and now our team. Jenks Silver doesn’t pretend to be best in the INFC. But our boys love football, love each other and work hard all week long to play football on Saturdays. I’m so glad my son doesn’t have access to read all the nasty comments made by the parents/coaches on here. My wish for the remainder of the football season is that the bashing of everyone would just stop and we would all enjoy our boys being little because they won’t be little much longer.

I'm going to be honest and say that I did not read all of this as my ADHD was kicking in but i did see that you said you are glad your son does not have access to this... I hope nobody's child has access to this... if they do please advise as i will stay in the younger forums to poke fun at people...

P.S. can you tell me if you are made that he is talking about your team or that your kid is not the one running the ball 89% of the time?

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Re: Jenks/TYAA Issue?
« Reply #40 on: October 19, 2018, 10:55:11 pm »
I’m not mad at all that my kid is not #3! I’m proud of my kid! His is the QB! He works hard and is dedicated to getting better! And for the record I LOVE our #3! And he deserves to run the ball. Anything else you want to know?
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Re: Jenks/TYAA Issue?
« Reply #41 on: October 19, 2018, 10:57:56 pm »
I dont know how this ruling will play out but What I do know is what I've been privileged to read for myself concerning these matters. The INFC at the highest level is at fault in both matters. I would go as far to say it this looks like Muskogee and TYAA White was set up from the very start. let this be a lesson, never trust a handshake and in this case emails,  lol.. Get ya paper work right!
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Re: Jenks/TYAA Issue?
« Reply #42 on: October 19, 2018, 11:50:58 pm »
His biggest fan like I said I had no issue with Jenks Silver until that mom tried getting on a callout page and saying Muskogee 6th graders was cheaters then she had her friend saying we had HS kids on our team. I have the screenshot if y’all need them we knew she would try and delete everything she said so we took pics every time she wrote something stupid. Trust me when I say this we don’t teach our boys the easy way out like cheating or manipulating rules to get wins. You as a parent might not like forfeit wins but y’all coaches do. All you parents can continue to say y’all feel bad for the Muskogee kids but that’s a lie, some of y’all are happy just as long as it’s not y’all kid who’s going through this. We don’t claim to be the best in this grade cause we’re not but guaranteed we going to compete every Saturday. Also I’m not talking down on any of the players for Jenks Silver I’m just pointing out the obvious #3 will not be able to run the ball 89% of the time and y’all expect to make playoffs doing that. Everyone in D1 know you stop 3 Jenks Silver can’t move the ball no other way. That’s not down talking kids that’s coaches realizing that team only have one developed runner on the team. HitSquad have two games left in the INFC we will make the best out of it and then head to KS to represent Oklahoma since the INFC will not allow us in their PST either SMH

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« Reply #43 on: October 20, 2018, 12:16:31 am »
I don’t think it’s fair to lump us all together because one parent posted in the group. I had absolutely no idea she even posted. And I am certain our coaches didn’t have a clue until this thread either. Feel free to share the screenshots. For the record, I do care that the boys on Muskogee had to forfeit their games. It’s not fair to them!!! As far as our coaches, they are good men who volunteer their time just like all the other coaches. And I doubt very seriously they want a forfeited win anymore than I do as a parent or as you would.  I won’t lump you into a group of people so I expect the same respect from others, including you!

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Re: Jenks/TYAA Issue?
« Reply #44 on: October 20, 2018, 12:43:25 am »
if I were still coaching I dont feel its my job to make sure my boys are legit. Ima a coach whoever my organization and the INF gives me. I think its to much blame on coaches in that respect. People are making money to do their jobs so they should do it. Coaches don't get paid a dime so why should coaches have to do the extra footwork. And I guess that's why I no longer  coach, lol.  And further the league makes more money when you coaches start filing paperwork on each other. So not only are you doing someone else job you are even paying them for your services. #bendover
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