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Re: Week 2 Pick'ems!!
« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2016, 12:37:15 pm »
Bartlesville White @ Owasso White
Collinsville @ Sand Springs
Catoosa @ Hilldale
Sequoyah @ TYAA Blue
BA Black @ Wagoner Red
Coweta @ TYAA White
Bixby Red @ Claremore
Muskogee @ Jenks Silver
Owasso Black @ McAlester
BA Silver @ Union Black
Sapulpa @ Skiatook
Bixby Blue @ Wagoner Black
Bartlesville Blue @ Bixby Platinum
Jenks Black @ Grove
Union Silver @ Owasso Red
Stillwater @ Jenks White
Del City @ Edmond
Choctaw @ Norman

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Bishop Kelley @ Glenpool
BA White @ Pryor
Union Red @ Jenks Maroon

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Re: Week 2 Pick'ems!!
« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2016, 12:38:56 pm »
@freeloader

i am not saying this team is by far the worst out there... just going off past knowledge of the team and those who have fed me information (we all have scouts i guess). I am sure as most teams do, they have gotten better.  4th grade some kids start to finally get it. Good for any team that improves, I was just a little confused about all this talk up of a team that is for lack of a better metaphor, OUR version of ULM or Southeaster Louisiana... if that makes sense

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Re: Week 2 Pick'ems!!
« Reply #17 on: September 09, 2016, 12:47:23 pm »
Catoosa is a 4A school as well and our numbers are usually 15-20 per team, but the bigger schools have anywhere from 40-60 kids per grade and with our guidelines on player participation (12 plays per player guaranteed) it is very difficult for those teams who have I would say anymore than 21 kids on a team to get those plays in to them all. So that's where those teams are playing a game inside a game to figure out who to take out and who to put in. I believe the maximum allowed in a team in the INFC is 32. I can't imagine how any team could ever compete much less win a game with 32 kids in their roster. It would be very difficult to get 12 plays per kid in with that many when on average we only have 60-80 plays a game. That is why most teams split when they can get at least 15 on each team. If TYAA were to out all their players on a team with no play count then they would have a powerhouse team. Broken Arrow, Jenks, Union, Owasso......etc.....this is how they make it possible for 2A, 3A, 4A, and even 5A to compete. With the player participation rules causing smaller teams it allows less kids per coach as well which pays off in the long run. 36 kids on a roster would be impossible to get all the kids play time. Oh and we have to coach our kids up too, I can't speak for your league, but I have seen the talent of the kids and coaches and played against it of other leagues and I'll just leave it at this, the preparation, commitment, talent, and overall readiness for that next level of football is 2nd and even some 3rd tier to the INFC. We welcome you guys to come in and play against stiff competition week in and week out anytime. Hey if your not ready then stick with your Baby League ;)
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Re: Week 2 Pick'ems!!
« Reply #18 on: September 09, 2016, 12:57:30 pm »
well we dont have the play count rule so i heard plenty of complaints about that team not playing all their players. Which sucks for those kids. We dont play them until 4 or 5 weeks in the season so i wonder if they grew even more which tends to happen. I think they ended up 5th over all they are definitely the better team in Choctaw.

Baby league?? now why did you have to go and insult like that. I wouldn't say its a baby league at all I think we have 3 or 4 teams that could compete pretty well with your league (all of this is speculation on both our parts) because as you said its all in the preparation and most of these teams probably like you are at it 3 or 4 days a week 6-830 and grinding to get better. Theres definitely a noticeable difference in coaching you can tell which coaches understand the game and those who think they do...

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Re: Week 2 Pick'ems!!
« Reply #19 on: September 09, 2016, 01:05:38 pm »
Sorry thought you seen my winky face :P

Now since we got how you really feel about it :)

We get 3 days a week 2 hours a day to practice that's it. 3 or 4 teams huh? Ok, now take those teams and cut them down in half splitting the talent up and put in player participation rules and tell me how many you think compete then. OR let's take the two teams from our league who were in Finals last year and make them 1 team without player participation. Now line up and play, just my honest opinion here......They turn the clock off by half time.......I'm just saying! #Bulldogs #Combined #35-0 Don't get upset just being real here......you could do that with Union, Jenks, and Broken Arrow as well. All I can see is we need a state all star game East versus West #StateChampion!
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Re: Week 2 Pick'ems!!
« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2016, 01:07:32 pm »
And Bixby...........
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Re: Week 2 Pick'ems!!
« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2016, 01:19:52 pm »
I am not doubting those top teams you mentioned... they have proven systems form little league to HS... the whole state knows that. The 3 or 4 teams only have 15-20 kids so your play rules wouldn't hurt them and i am sure there wouldn't be anyone split up. Only that Choctaw team last  year had that many kids most other hover around 20.... I think an east/west would be GREAT!  Just hard to do that with so many teams playing in so many leagues. Tell your INFC people to contact OSFL and see if they will join in and be the "WEST DIVISION"  That adds 8 teams to the west so you wouldn't need to travel unless you wanted 1 or 2 games a season (non divisional). Then you can have your playoffs and see how well the west stacks up. Like i said your rules really arent that different. Just weight rules and player participation... 

the last 3 years tops 3 teams have been the same in our age group

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Re: Week 2 Pick'ems!!
« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2016, 01:46:38 pm »
Yeah that would definitely something the INFC would be interested in, but the problem is when you go to successful organizations and try to recruit them into your league and tell them they have to go by your rules and some possibly split their team up then it creates issues with Parents, Coaches, and Club Presidents. Even with 15-20 kids on your roster unless you have about 12-13 kids that are very easy to coach and immediate difference makers in the game then it's still tough. I would say if a team has 18-20 kids on a team and they had 10 kids that are impact players as soon as they step on the field and the team they were playing had 15 kids and 10 kids that were impact players as soon as they step on the field then you would see the team with 15 kids win by at least a couple touchdowns in the 2nd half. There is just that much of a difference in this league and because of that it will cause coaches to start coaching their kids from Bottom to Top better preparing kids as a whole league for that next level of play. Now I do understand there are still great coaches in every league so don't get me wrong, but Player Participation is a huge benefactor for our State, League, and Future. Rather it gives our kids more coaches because of Team splitting or even if a Coach wants to be competitive in order to do so he better build up the kids around his "Super Stars". With that being said most teams can not have their best kids on the field at any given moment which makes the Player Participation Rule a BIG DIFFERENCE in organization rules.


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Re: Week 2 Pick'ems!!
« Reply #23 on: September 09, 2016, 01:50:44 pm »
I'm sure the INFC would love for the West Side to join though. More money in their pocket and a chance to prove their system is forward progress into Junior High Football across the State.
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Re: Week 2 Pick'ems!!
« Reply #24 on: September 09, 2016, 09:44:36 pm »



Bartlesville White (0-1) @ Owasso White (0-1) I got Owasso but it might be close. This Owasso team was good last year. I heard there have been some coaching changes. We will see if new guy can get them going. 

Collinsville (1-0) @ Sand Springs (0-1) - Cardinals show that they are for real this week!


Catoosa (1-0) @ Hilldale (0-1) - Interseting game here. I hear Catoosa found some big boys that get after it. I think Hilldale is better.

Sequoyah (1-0) @ TYAA Blue (1-0) - Aint no upset alert here. Bulldogs will run all over Sequoyah!!

BA Black (1-0) @ Wagoner Red (0-1) - Don't think BA Black is as good as they think they are. Week 1 was a big time flop by Owasso. Wagoner make it really hard on BA.

Coweta (0-1) @ TYAA White (1-0) - Bulldogs will dominate

Bixby Red (1-0) @ Claremore (0-1) - Bixby will get fired up this week. They win by 3tds

Muskogee (1-0) @ Jenks Silver (1-0) - Not sold on Muskogee. They have some good athletes but I think Jenks is a more disciplined team.

Owasso Black (0-1) @ McAlester (0-1) - Owasso could not get anything going week 1 against Tyaa. they had opportunities but didn't take advantage. I think they will get better this week. Owasso by 2 tds

BA Silver (1-0) @ Union Black (1-0) - BA has some great backs but they struggle against physical defenses. Union is very physical!

Sapulpa (1-0) @ Skiatook (0-1) - Game could go either way

Bixby Blue (1-0) @ Wagoner Black (1-0) - Good game here. Bixby is a solid football team and they win by 2tds

Bartlesville Blue (0-1) @ Bixby Platinum (0-1) - Not sure what happened to this Bville team. They seem to struggle week 1. I think they get some things working this week.

Jenks Black (0-1) @ Grove (1-0) - Grove gonna shut it down early

Union Silver (1-0) @ Owasso Red (1-0) - Should be a good game. Owasso still the same as always. #7 left, #7 right. I do believe there luck will run out this week. Owasso has more talent than Union but a great coaching staff will win this game for Union.

Stillwater (0-1) @ Jenks White (1-0) - Jenks White will shut the scoreboard off!

Del City (0-1) @ Edmond (0-1) - Del City your pathetic!

Choctaw (1-0) @ Norman (0-1) - I have nothing!



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Lincoln Christian (1-0) @ BA Orange (0-1) - LC wins big!

Bishop Kelley (1-0) @ Glenpool (0-1) - I'm taking the pool here to get there 1st win

BA White (0-1) @ Pryor (0-1) - BA gets the win in a low scoring affair

Union Red (1-0) @ Jenks Maroon (0-1) - Redskins will improve to 2-0 in impressive fashion.






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Re: Week 2 Pick'ems!!
« Reply #25 on: September 10, 2016, 07:50:02 am »
Owasso white
Collinsville
Catoosa
TYAA blue
BA black
TYAA white
Bixby red
Muskogee
Owasso black
Union black
Sapulpa
Bixby blue
Bixby platinum
Grove
Union silver
Jenks White
Choctaw
Lincoln christian
Bishop kelley
Pryor
Union red

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Re: Week 2 Pick'ems!!
« Reply #26 on: September 10, 2016, 08:06:50 pm »
Wow!! So I guess this is one way to meet everyone. My name is Aaron McConnell and I Am the 4th Grade coach for the CNP Yellowjackets as well as the Coordinator for our organization. Yes we are the Choctaw organization in INFC because we have kids from the town of Choctaw not just Nicoma Park. This is the second time I have ever been on this message board because I understand it is for fans and this is the kind of things that fans enjoy doing. Now that I have been personally attacked I guess it's time to post because the last thing I want is fans/coaches of INFC youth football reading a post from some dude that never played past high school football or at some less than creditable Juco talk about me and give the wrong impression.

First, I would like to say that they are right. We are not a world beater team and we don't have the 1 or 2 fast kids that you can send around the edge or throw deep with to win games. We are a full team of kids (32 to be exact) that want to play including a kid with 1 leg that has more drive and heart than most people combined. I have 2 kids with autism that just want to be normal. The normal kids play football so that's what they are doing. We are teaching football and the game inside the game. See I was a QB in 2nd thru 4th grade of the undefeated Indian Meridian Warriors and I grew to be an undrafted free agent with the Tennessee Titans as a 340 pound Defensive TACKLE. Then went to play 7 years on different pro teams including Canada and Arena Football. My point to that is there are kids that are playing positions now that they will never play again. I want to teach football, not winning or losing with the fasted kid around the edge. We teach things from the line changing blocking schemes on there own to clock management. That to me is what this game is about. It is very hard to win if you are only teaching. I can tell you if we wanted to be competitive and win we could but to many kids would quit this game due to not getting to play and that's not what youth sports is about.
Now to respond to this guy who would never say these things to my face. We don't win a bunch and I promise you guys that is not a problem with me. Im not sure we have won more than 3 games in a season. Lol My youth trophies are in my parents attic along with grandmas blankets. Trophies as wins are important to most dads that walk with their chest out not coaches that want to teach football. I agree winning is fun and all but having a reason to wear your helmet in high school is more important to me. The problem with high school sports these days is the best athletes are walking the halls and not playing football. Because you have coaches like this guy that coached them as kids.
To personally attack me on here is cool and all but to talk crap about things you have no clue about shows a ton about you Racer!! Let me talk a little about that Choctaw game you speak about. It was like 50 something to 6 with 3 minutes left and the Choctaw coach called 3 reverses and scored on 2 of them while kicking onside kicks between with all starters still in the game. They had 30 something kids and some never played a down in this game.  That shows a ton of class and a great sign of a "coach" so please don't speak unless you were apart of the situation. (Which I have a feeling you were just posting under a different name) After the game shaking hands I let him and his little staff know they were classless for that and yes it sparked a battle. Again that is not what this game should be about. His Edmond living QB is a stud and scored almost every play. We couldn't handle him and I have no problem saying that.
Now to fill you guys in on the combining the Nicoma Park and Choctaw comment. Again something superman here knows nothing about. We are the town of Choctaw and have 2 different organization with 2 different beliefs among the 2. I tried to bring us together and make us 1 organization that could represent Choctaw and grow as a community through youth sports. Playing the teams that are smaller school does nothing for our kids when they get to high school. We step out on Jenks or Union fields and half the time we are beat before the game starts on atmosphere alone because we have been playing at places like Newcastle in little league. I believe we should be playing these teams now and this is part of what I tried to do with Choctaw youth sports. Combining the 2 gave more kids the chance to play together as they will in high school. Also gave more kids the chance to play positions and get playing time instead of standing on the sidelines. The biggest problem to this was the  CYF coaches have some hand picked teams and were scared to lose those teams. If we combine and draft as all other areas do with big numbers CYF would not be able to have the teams they have so they would actually have to be coaches. So again to fill everyone in on this since it was brought up and one sided. We could care less about a super team we wanted to be Choctaw!!
I wanted to take the time to explain the truth about what Racer thought he knew. Haha by the way if you personally have a problem with me I live in Rabbit Run CHOCTAW America. Come chat with me!!!

So it was nice to meet all of you and I hope you take the time to speak to me if we are playing against each other and you will learn really fast that I am 100% for the kids and what is best for their future in this amazing sport of football.
Good luck to everyone this year and hope for the safety of your players. God Bless!
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Re: Week 2 Pick'ems!!
« Reply #27 on: September 10, 2016, 08:24:29 pm »
I like what your putting out there coach. Well said

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« Reply #28 on: September 10, 2016, 08:25:52 pm »
Salute Coach Mac!!!

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« Reply #29 on: September 10, 2016, 08:37:25 pm »
Wow!!! What an Introduction! Glad to have you guys with us and trust me most people didn't give a damn about Racer's Chest Pumping! I'm glad you got on here and gave your side after Racer's comments. Hope to meet you some time!
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