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2016 Playoff/Tournament Talk & Predictions
« on: October 19, 2016, 11:04:40 am »
Ok for anyone that has been with this group the last couple of years you know we will do a Pick Em throughout the Tournament. Usually we will do a bracket. I have been quietly assessing teams this year. Not publicly posting my top 15 and what not. This is not to take a shot at anyone ,not to hurt anyone's feelings, & not to say that your team can't beat anybody. I actually like to be able to chop it up with people from the Forum. I like being able to talk when we run into each other somewhere so, try not to get too emotional about all this lol. If you disagree then post your own opinion please. I am just a dumb fat guy looking for honest opinions.  So I am going to post my opinions on what I think about a few teams chances to win it all. You see the word OPINION alot there because it isn't a fact until it actually happens lol.

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Re: 2016 Playoff/Tournament Talk & Predictions
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2016, 11:11:05 am »
Well that makes 2 of us........ the dumb fat part that is.
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Re: 2016 Playoff/Tournament Talk & Predictions
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2016, 11:24:01 am »
I am going to start off here with my #1 spot. Can you guess who gets it? Yep, you guessed it correctly. Tyaa Black and these guys get their own individual post lol.

1. Tyaa Black - People get so wrapped up with wanting to win sometimes that they choose to throw every excuse out there as to why someone is so good. While in some instances there are legitimate reasons, none of us like to lose so other instances tend to breed incorrect perceptions.  These guys are class acts if you ask me. Have my utmost respect as a Coaching staff and group of competitors. They have amazing speed and make crucial in game adjustments that are the keys to victory when you play other good teams. Having only 1 loss on their record over the past 2 years they have a who's who on their list of teams they have faced, almost all of what I feel are the top teams in this age group over the last couple of seasons. They are battled tested and know what it takes to win the big game. They are well aware that "Any Given Saturday" a team can step up and take their crown. That is what drives them. To be the man you have to beat the man and folks regardless of how anyone feels.... Until someone knocks them out in the playoffs. These guys are the man. Just for good measure I chose to include the scores to back my statement.

These are Tyaa Black's scores from the last yr and a half.

vs BA Black 27-0 W
vs Sequoyah 28-0 W
vs Collinsville 26-0 W
vs Hilldale Red 19-20 L
vs Bixby Red 27-7 W
vs Wagoner 40-0 W
vs Coweta Black 39-0 W
vs BA Chrome 45-0 W
vs Catoosa White 46-0 W

Playoffs
vs Haskell 41-6 W
vs LC Gold 39-19 W
vs Bixby Blue 27-14 W
vs Bixby Red 13-7 W
vs Tyaa Blue 13-7 W

2nd Grade
vs BK White 13-0 W
vs Coweta White 33-0 W
vs Collinsville White 34-0 W
vs Muskogee 26-0 W
vs BA Silver 21-6 W
vs Bixby White 28-0 W
vs Owasso Red 25-0 W
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Re: 2016 Playoff/Tournament Talk & Predictions
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2016, 12:03:15 pm »
Then you have a group of 6 teams that I feel are right there waiting to give it their best shot to overtake the throne. You can rank these teams in any order you choose to rank them so I am not ranking them in any particular order.

Bixby Blue - These guys are good. Very  well Coached. They have the know how and the talent to win it all. They made a deep run in the playoffs and dropped their 1st and only game to Tyaa Black in the playoffs. After having ran thru their Division last year they ended up in what is arguably the toughest Division in our age group this yr and have just kept trucking along. They still have a big game with LC Gold left and obviously that is going to be one of my GOTW but, these guys are poised to make themselves another deep run in the playoffs again this year.

Hilldale Red - This is my team so I will keep it short and sweet. I love these guys with all my heart. Admittedly so we are not in the toughest Division this year but, we most definitely were last year. Anyone who thinks these boys won't be ready to play are absolutely mistaken. With that being we are well aware that we can be beaten and come into each and every game with that as our mindset. Having only 2 losses thus far over the past 2 seasons both of those losses came in smash mouth games against another team that is from that D5 Divison from last year and will appear on this list. The Collinsville Cardinals (Red). Very humbling to say the least but, it made our entire team push that much harder this season.

 Collinsville Red - These guys are EXPLOSIVE. Very well Coached and although they have dropped a few games they are more than capable of beating anyone. Their Coaches do their homework and they feature what I believe to be probably the best all around offensive player in this age group. We all know that we have grown as teams, coaches, and players. These guys went from what was no doubt the toughest Division in 1st grade to what I believe is the toughest Division  (when you look at the top 4 teams) this year. D4 may be the toughest from top to bottom but, D3 has my vote for toughest top 4 teams. These guys have played some of the best teams in this age group over the past 2 seasons and are serious contenders to win it all. I would not recommend taking them lightly.

LC Black - While I don't know a ton about these guys I have seen them live a couple of times. I have seen enough to tell me that their defense is legit. As I talked with another Coach we both agreed that when the cold weather hits it goes hand and hand with a team like LC Black. They also hail from D3 and have had what looks like absolute wars with Collinsville Red & Tyaa Blue. They will be more than ready to challenge for it all in a few short weeks.

Tyaa Blue - Up until these last few weeks Tyaa Blue had only ever been defeated by 1 team and that was the champs. Now their are 2 more teams to add to that list but, both were so close that you could chop it up to a bounce of the ball. These guys have proven they are more than capable of making a run back to Finals were they came in runner up after a very close game with Tyaa Black. They are battled tested and very well coached. They obviously have the talent to win it all and still have the address to Bixby saved in their GPS. These guys are another member of D3 and absolutely deserve to one of the frontrunners to win it all. Do not let their record fool ya.

BA Black- These guys had a brand new Coaching staff come in and got those boys hungry to capitalize on what was pretty good run in the playoffs. Another member of D3 these guys have battled with 2 of the top 4 so far this yr splitting 1-1 and still have a huge game with LC Black lingering that has a  Division Championship at stake as well as final Division Standing implications. From what I gather they are hard nosed and gritty team and aside from a disappointing game they lost to Collinsville Red,(which in turn was the most impressive win any team has posted so far this season for Collinsville ) these guys absolutely deserve to be in the convo. These Coaches are class acts and the boys success is a reflection of that.
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Re: 2016 Playoff/Tournament Talk & Predictions
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2016, 12:17:14 pm »
Lol Clark 13 I hear that bubba. Got the next group coming shortly.

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Re: 2016 Playoff/Tournament Talk & Predictions
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2016, 01:34:03 pm »
Next up comes the largest group. You can probably add more teams to this group than I will list because I don't want my fingers to fall off lol. As stated we all have came along way from last season to this season and from the the beginning of the yr till now. A vast majority of these teams will give most teams a run for their money if not knock off a few of the top teams. As a matter of fact I know a few of these teams could make an argument to be in the list of 6 above them here. Either way no disrespect intended.

Tyaa Red - This team is well coached. Has good speed. If what I have been told is correct these are basically the same boys that made up Tyaa White last yr. These guys can compete with most everyone. Only having losses to Bixby Blue and Tyaa Blue they have 2 wins over Collinsville Red last yr and have beaten some other tough teams this year in BA Gold and LC Gold. They are more than capable of turning it on come playoff time and making some noise. Watch out.

BA Silver- This all drafted team has a Coaching staff that is clearly students of the game in all facets. They have the experience and with their only loss being to Tyaa Black they obviously have faced as good as it gets. I seen 1st hand the speed and agility that little back they have possesses. Contrary to belief in 8 man football sometimes a kid like that can carry a team. I am sure these guys will be primed to make a run in playoffs. Regardless of what they have exceeded expectations this year and that in itself is always an accomplishment. They could shock a few teams come playoff time.

SS Black - As stated before and everyone should know if you have coached in 8 man. It is extremely difficult to be competitive with 15 kids. We meet the exception to the rule here. Although difficult to compete SS Black is not a team that I would be wishing to face in the playoffs. These guys are well coached and they  had 2 wars with Tyaa Blue last year so they are battle tested. Having seen them on across the sidelines personally I can tell you that #5 is a special kid and he plays with an intensity that all of us hope & try to bring out in all of our kids. Nothing but, respect for these guys. They are gamers.

LC Gold - These guys still have a beautifully coached line and I love the Qb's cadence. They are gritty and will be a tough out for anyone. They are very well coached. I just like to watch them play ball. Not looking forward to seeing those 2 LC teams become 1 if that is what happens. They still have a huge game with Bixby Blue that will tell us a bit more but, we already know they are going to be geared up for the playoffs.

BA Gold - These guys and LC Gold are kinda cut from the same cloth. Well coached, tough, & gritty kids. BA Gold has a couple of nice Rb's and they have mixed it up with some of what I think are the best this grade has to offer. They played Bixby Blue close and tied LC Gold. This is another team I would not be hoping to see come playoff time. Only time will tell but, they have it in them for sure.

Wagoner - Wagoner has had themselves a very impressive year thus far. They are fixing to play what may be the toughest defense they have faced all year in their season finale but, regardless if any team finishes a season undefeated it is an impressive feat. Having played them twice last year I can tell you #14 is the real deal. I realize they have built the other players up around him and that is a credit to the coaches. When the playoffs hit they are sure to make some noise.

Claremore Red - Well coached. Their defense looks to be stingy. They have a chance to take the D1 crown in the season finale against Wagoner. That will present them with the best test their defense will have seen this year. They will no doubt come into the playoffs ready to play and I expect them to be a tough out for most.

Bixby Red - Folks do not let their record fool you. These guys have a great coaching staff and boys that come to play. They are one of only 3 teams to come with a score of Tyaa Black the past 2 seasons. They are another member of that D5 group from last yr and I can promise you this. If they are across the sidelines from you then you know you have a game on your hands. I personally wanted to put this group in with the 1st because it would absolutely not surprise me to see them playing for it all or to once again be one of the last 4 standing. They are that kind of good.

Edmond/Norman/Stillwater- I have only been told about these guys. From what I gather they are going to be a tough out. Edmond apparently has a scheme that is very efficient and different for our age group. I would rather watch someone else deal with that lol. All 3 of these teams appear to have a very good Coaching staff and I would not be surprised to see any of them make a run come playoff time. I just don't know enough about them to make an educated statement. I can gather enough to know they could upset a few though.

Catoosa Green - We get to see these guys 1st hand this weekend but, with them still having a chance to knock us off and tie for our Division I wanted to add them. I hear they run alot of misdirection that is tough to keep up with. We all know most teams want to get out in space at this age and if they are good at that then will be a handful for most teams. Putting up 19 on a tough SS Black team is enough to prove their offense is a threat. All you need is the right draw come playoff time. A win this weekend could be the thing to catapult these boys to an deep playoff run.

South Tulsa- This coaching staff appears to have helped this team do a complete 180 from last year. These guys have had these boys in every game they have played so far this year and they will be a handful come playoff time. They have received high praise from several people this year. A couple of which I hold their opinions in high regard. So compliments to the coach and good luck to whoever draws them in the playoffs. They are more than capable of holding their own.

Berryhill Gold - These guys are a tough & gritty team. They are well coached and should be a tough out for most. I really look for them to come into the playoffs ready to compete.

Bartlesville Blue- This bunch of scrappy kids are led by a group of good guys. The Coaching staff at Bartlesville is a class act all the way. These guys will be in most games and come playoff time they will be ready to match up with most. It would not surprise me to see them make a nice run given the right draw.
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Re: 2016 Playoff/Tournament Talk & Predictions
« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2016, 03:16:40 pm »
You must've been very bored at work today! Haha.. Good, interesting read coach. A lot of good football teams across the board! Don't wanna fast forward these last two games, but the postseason is going to be exciting that's for sure.

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Re: 2016 Playoff/Tournament Talk & Predictions
« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2016, 03:32:41 pm »
Lol thanks coach. Definitely took some time. I agree.  I am already  sad it is almost  over as well but, there is a part of me that welcomes the easy going nature of basketball lol. I lose alot of sleep this time of year! Seriously though I absolutely love competing with all the great teams we have in this grade.

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Re: 2016 Playoff/Tournament Talk & Predictions
« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2016, 04:54:39 pm »
Great post Brotha and yes im sad to see the season coming to a close. the Tourneys gonna be very competitive hope to bump heads with a few of you guys come that week

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Re: 2016 Playoff/Tournament Talk & Predictions
« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2016, 05:02:25 pm »
Absolutely bubba! I am just hoping a few of those matchups happen later in the tournament and not 1st or 2nd round. So many quality teams that will probably be unavoidable though.

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Re: 2016 Playoff/Tournament Talk & Predictions
« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2016, 06:08:23 pm »
Postseason drawing Sunday, Oct 30th @ 4:00. Main office.  Am I seeing this correctly? 

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« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2016, 06:59:51 pm »
I called yesterday to confirm and they said they are shooting for everything to be done that day at this time. They didn't give me a time.